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Crispy's Process: Part 3 - Flats by Crispy-Gypsy Crispy's Process: Part 3 - Flats by Crispy-Gypsy
How I prepare my lines and how I flat. BIG BUTT FILE. AUGH.

Also I've been chipping away at this for a few days, so forgive me. I didn't do a complete step by step on the flats because I didn't think there was much to say. But I might've skipped over something you guys might need.

So if there are any questions about flatting or anything else in this tut, feel free to ask! I just hope it's being at least a little helpful.
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Yoggington Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2013
That quickmask tip has saved me literally days <3

Should I wait avidly for Part IV or is it unlikely to arrive anytime soon? :P
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Crispy-Gypsy Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2013  Student
haha it's unlikely to arrive anytime soon, sadly :c It's been started, but the laptop I was working on died so...it's lost to the ages. Maybe I'll catch up on it some other time.
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Ziannna Featured By Owner May 21, 2012
Kinda cool to see how much you've changed/improved your process since the last time you did a tut. Thanks for doing this!! :glomp:
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madamenanas Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2012  Professional General Artist
Love seeing peoples process. I used to do a version of this but it never came out looking smooth or clear...honestly you just made my life a million times easier.

Thankee kindly
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itland-9-13 Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wonderful once again! You have now deserved a big round of faving; Thank you! =D

I'll keep an eye out for the next part =)
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Osanagokoro Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This is so helpful and fun to follow! Thanks so much for sharing, Gypsy! I'm looking forward to the next one. :3
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renartsam Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012
I am having a hard time making my lines color holders. I cannot find the linear burn tool?
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Crispy-Gypsy Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Student
It's not a tool, it's a layer mode. Check the layers window, and there should be a box that says "normal." You click on it, and a drop down menu should appear with a list of different choices (Normal, dissolve, darken, multiply, etc), you find "linear burn" and you set the layer onto that. I hope that makes sense!
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renartsam Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012
Okay. Thank you.
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HPhantasia Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Student
I have never thought of doing the lines in a mask. That's something I"ll definitely try! I always find it hard to decide whether or not to keep the black lines in some places, and color in others. IDK,maybe it just has to do with how dark the outline is?
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Crispy-Gypsy Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Student
Man, I definitely have troubles with that too. I think that's partly why I do the color holds, just to make it easier for me to not have to make a choice, but even then... I guess it comes down to whether or not something looks too light! feel it out, right?
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HPhantasia Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Student
When did you start doing this instead of using more of the Black? (If I'm not mistaken there was a bit of a shift in your style, but some of the MT stuff is still with the heavy black). Or is that just because you want a different feel from it?
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Crispy-Gypsy Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Student
In Magic Train i don't use color holds, you're right. But that's mostly out of laziness XDDD I don't know if I could do an entire comic page that way because it would be very time consuming and ask for a bit better precision. The Magic Train lines are all just on a multiply layer after levelling as opposed to the mask and burn method here.

And hmmm... I think that I actually started doing the method with color holds a couple years ago, actually. I mean, since then, my process with it has DEFINITELY changed, and even now, even though it's the process I use most, I change my coloring process depending on the feel or the way that I want it to look. Which is the annoying part of art, isn't it? DO WHAT FEELS RIGHT or whatever, when sometimes you just want a process you don't have to think too much about. ANYONE WHO SAYS ART ISN'T HARD SHOULD SHUT UP.
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HPhantasia Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2012  Student
I'm grateful to your experimenting! I don't really know what any of the different layer styles do, probably because I've been using them in wrong instances. (I still to Normal, Multiply, and recently, Color).

Yes, all about the feeeeel! Haha. Thanks again for the helpful hints! <3
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Tsuki-The-Misfit Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012
amazing :3
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Dualmask Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
The part about color holds was something I've been trying to figure out for a while. Great tut!
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TheMBV Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012
Thank You.
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EmmaBubbly132 Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
what program did you use for this?
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Crispy-Gypsy Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Student
Photoshop CS3
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EmmaBubbly132 Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
ugh, oh. u.u :<
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Crispy-Gypsy Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Student
Sorry ;o; But the way I see it is that programs are unimportant in the end, it's getting your art to look good. Just keep drawing. That's more important than coloring pretty anyway.
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EmmaBubbly132 Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
thank you!! :iconjoyplz:
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UmbrellaSpecter Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Hobbyist Filmographer
JEFF BRIDGES!
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Crispy-Gypsy Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Student
FUCK YEAH JEFF BRIDGES!
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UmbrellaSpecter Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Hobbyist Filmographer
lol
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Hettie-Young Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012
yay for True Grit
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Crispy-Gypsy Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Student
Indeed :3
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Azouie Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Student General Artist
Really useful! Thanks for putting up the tutorial, and the picture's really looking great!
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Crispy-Gypsy Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Student
Thank you!
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ugotrabs Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Sweet. Thanks for all of the work you put in.
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Crispy-Gypsy Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Student
Thanks, it's no prob. As long as it's helping a couple of people.
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KA-KeitorinArtist Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Wow! this looks usefull! Now I can do an expert way of coloring in my line art. Before I just made a layer on top of the line art and put on multiply so that black lines pop through and colored it in. XD
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Crispy-Gypsy Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Student
XD I used to do that too, but it ended up not allowing me to color in multiple layers, so I stopped after a while. I'm glad I helped a little anyway!
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KA-KeitorinArtist Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Yeah I know what you mean. I tried it out at school (when I was supposed to be working) And it works great! Thanks so much! A tip from my teacher who caught me. Treat the layers like a pencils and a blend marker and you should get a better result. I don't know what he means by that. Hopefully I can crack the meaning.
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Dybvik Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012
what program are you using ? and this fill tool, do you mean paint bucket?
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Crispy-Gypsy Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Student
Photoshop, and yes, the paintbucket.
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Dybvik Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012
hum, i have to hide the layers before colorizing or the colors will be limited by the linearts o.O kinda annoying but practical
do you have any good ways to darken the lines from gray to black with out using the burn tool and spam that all over?
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Crispy-Gypsy Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012  Student
I don't use the burn tool at all. I'm actually quite confused over what you are saying D:
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Dybvik Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012
its not important thanks anyhow 8D
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StJost Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
ARGH! The wait is agonizing!
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VonEyEzine Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
always been a little usure as t o the actual technique of "flatts" as it were, however it is what it is. Fill the stencil so that isolation of that area can be selected easily for more overlaying shading, highlights and details. i guess I was looking for a more realistic explanation of what it was, but your tut here just says it all IN BLACKNWHITE!

I also appreciate your way of quickmask mode in separating the lineart. Ive experimented with this in Painter sai and Photoshop cs3 and always get different results, but its better than splitting channels n stuff.
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ashleyjordan Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
This was so amazing and helpful, wonderful work!
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theTieDyeCloak Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012
This is amazingly helpful. And I like the word "niggly" :)
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swiftgold Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is very useful! (As was the last one!) It's pretty different from how I do it, but I like how you do the background colors and shading first. I usually hate coloring background and put it off to the end, but I think I'll try it that way next time and see how it goes...

My method of getting the lines on a separate layer is to temporarily change the image type to grayscale, right click on the Gray channel to select it, select inverse, and then fill on a new layer with black.
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CheekyFnPirate Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I feel that these tutorials were very well thought out and I hope to someday look back on them and learn even more :]
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Talandir Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012
There's an easier way to do this if working in CMYK. Once you have your clean black linework, duplicate your black channel. Then clear your CMYK channels and keep your new Black Copy channel visible. Then you can work in color without touching your linework at all. When finished coloring, load the selection "Black Copy" back into your black channel and fill with 100% black, and then just delete the extra 'black copy' channel.
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Crispy-Gypsy Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Student
Thanks, I'll try that out!
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AustralianPlatypus Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
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renartsam Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012
Very helpful!
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